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New Post 8/18/2008 11:56 PM
User is offline Jake Martin
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Hampton Examines Kayak Restrictions 

I tried to post earlier but it failed SORRY. 

Hello everyone, my name is Jake and as of last night I am a fellow TKAA member and competitor in the upcoming tourney.  I purchased a Prowler 13 from Bass Pro Shops and was recommend to the TKAA by the manager there.  I have recently discovered kayak fishing and look forward to meeting you guys at the next meeting (I live in Hampton and if anyone wants to carpool to the next meeting or the captains meeting let me know).  I appologize ahead of time for being long winded.

To my concern, I opened the Daily Press today to see that the Hampton City Council is examining restrictions on kayakers (and other boaters) at Buckroe Beach during the next Hampton City Council meeting this Wed. Aug. 20th.  They are trying to restrict launching and use of boats (kayaks, canoes, jetskis, and all watercraft) in the designated swimming areas except for the kayaks and paddle boats that are rented from Hampton Parks and Rec. From my dealings with the staff at the beach,  jetskis, power boats, canoes, and privately owned kayaks are already prohibited in the swimming area.  I am worried that at the next Council Meeting, the City of Hampton will enact policies that are restrictive to paddlers and make it difficult for kayakers enjoy Buckroe Beach.  I assume the safety of beach patrons is the city's main concern.  I was an American Red Cross certified Lifegaurd and Water Safety Insructor for five years.  I also served as the Aquatics Director, and Assistant Director of Outdoor Recreation at LAFB.  I have assited in the enjoyment of the outdoors for countless people and hope to continue to do so by ensuring easy access at the Beach.

I have been to Buckroe many times to fish this summer (BTW I've never had a bad day there, big croaker and spot are very plentiful there, but I haven't been able to land any cobia yet) and been instructed by lifeguards to launch my kayak from the designated fishing area located near the fishing pier that is being rebuilt to the right (south) of the beach.  I have had with no problem with lifeguards or park rangers until last week.  I went fishing last Tuesday afternoon and after I unloaded my kayak I was stopped by a lifeguard and told to launch from the opposite end of the beach to at "Beach #6".  At this end of the beach there is no off loading area and I would have to drag my kayak a across a gated parking lot (which closes at 7pm) and down the beach a 1/4 mile.  I asked why other lifeguards had allowed me to launch there previously and why he wasn't granting me the same courtesy. I was directed by the lifeguard to a "park ranger".  The park ranger had to call someone to find out where I was allowed to launch, which turned out to be Beach #6, and did not provide any reasoning for change in policy/rules or the inconsistant enforcement.  There are no rules posted or written regarding this policy at Buckroe Beach.  I waited till 6pm when the lifeguards are off duty and launced from the fishing area anyways with no incident.

After seeing the article in todays paper, I called Hampton Parks & Rec to see what policies are actually in place.  I spoke with Tina Roszczyo, who was more than happy to answer my questions.  I told her of my prior experiences and the inconsistency of enforcement.  She told me that many of the lifeguards this year allow people to launch in the fishing area near the pier outside of the designated swimming area and that I just dealt with "a real stickler for the rules" for the rules that day.  I also asked her what brought about the need for this issue to be brought up before city council and the need to have city ordinances enacted to restrict access.  She told me that she was unaware of any action being taken by the Hampton City Council.  When I asked why such actions would need to be taken, Roszczyo said that "some people in motor boats and jet skis were taking advantage of the situation".  She confirmed my assumption that it is all ready policy to restrict access to motorized vessels.  I told her that I understand that jet skis and motor boats would be dangerous but why include people in canoes and kayaks.  She said that it was to restrict the amount of boaters in the water.  I then asked her why kayakers were allowed access in the city owned kayaks and paddle boats that are rented at the beach.  She says that lessons and instructions on safety are given to the renters. 

I don't want to miss the opportunity to have say on this issue before any restrictions are put in place.  I just want easy access to the water.  If anyone has dealt with this issue or has any suggestions please feel free to post.

Jake Martin

 
New Post 8/19/2008 9:40 AM
User is offline Knot Right
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Re: Hampton Examines Kayak Restrictions 

We should have representation at the meeting. If you are interested, then you could attend on our behalf. I would love to, but I cannot make it on the 20th. I think that amount of safety education brought about by our club greatly exceeds the INDOC that they receive  from the lifeguard just prior to shoving off.

Chad

 
New Post 8/19/2008 9:22 PM
User is offline Yakkingaway
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Redfish


Re: Hampton Examines Kayak Restrictions 

I have some early afternoon comittments but I'd like to know where it's held, and the time.  I'd like to attend to see what they're thinking about.    Anyone else going to put their two cents in? 

 


Hobie Outback
 
New Post 8/19/2008 9:30 PM
User is offline Yakkingaway
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Redfish


Re: Hampton Examines Kayak Restrictions 

I found the information for the meeting......   copied below.  This is from last months meeting and I'd only guess it's the same time.   They will be working on the agenda right up until the meeting most likely so if anyone wants to attend, here ya go:

Council Agenda - Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 7:30 P.M.

Council Chambers, 8th Floor, City Hall


Hobie Outback
 
New Post 8/19/2008 10:31 PM
User is offline Jake Martin
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Re: Hampton Examines Kayak Restrictions 

It is Wednesday August 20th at 7:30. It will be held in downtown Hampton.

8th Floor, Hampton City Hall
22 Lincoln Street
Hampton, VA 23669
Phone: (757) 727-6315
Fax: (757) 728-3037
Email: council@hampton.gov (Note: Emails sent to this address will go to all members of Council.)

 at Council Chambers, 8th Floor, City Hall.

This is the item of concern on the current agenda

GENERAL ITEMS
    Ordinances
25. 08-0364 “An ordinance to amend Chapter Seven, Article II, of the Code of the City of Hampton, entitled “Boating Skiing, and Surfing” by repealing Section 7-26 “Speed limit in portion of Hampton River and in Sunset Creek”, amending and reenacting Section 7-30 “Boating, skiing, etc., prohibited in marked swimming areas” and by adding thereto a new section 7-36 entitled “No Wake Zones”.

 
New Post 8/20/2008 10:19 PM
User is offline Jake Martin
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Re: Hampton Examines Kayak Restrictions 

GOOD NEWS.  I went to the Hampton City Council Meeting.  I signed up to speak on our behalf and when the agenda item came up it was removed with no explanation.  I waited to speak to council members to see why it was removed and I was told by City Manager Jesse Wallace and Counciman Ross Kearney that it was not fair to only allow city rented kayaks in the water and that it was not going to be brought up at the next meeting.  They also said that we are still allowed to kayak at Buckroe Beach.  I also spoke to a reporter from the Daily Press and answered some questions.  I plugged the tournament, website, and the TKAA.  So check the Daily Press to see if we make it in.  I am looking into getting an advertisement put on to the Hampton cable channel 47 for the upcoming Tournament.

 
New Post 8/21/2008 7:36 AM
User is offline wolfva
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Re: Hampton Examines Kayak Restrictions 

Thank you for representing kayakers Jake!  I have to admit I'm surprised though...I mean, a city council actually doing something that makes sense? Can we get these guys to run Norfolk and Va Beach?

 
New Post 8/21/2008 8:34 AM
User is offline Yakkingaway
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Redfish


Re: Hampton Examines Kayak Restrictions 

Thanks for attending....          Portsmouth could certainly use some of that 'thinking' leadership.  Wonder if they'd consider a straight up trade?   With some appropriate bribes of course......     In fact we could use any leadership......    Volunteers?   Any drunks?  Homeless?    Need help over here.      


Hobie Outback
 
New Post 8/21/2008 9:12 AM
User is offline baydaze
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Re: Hampton Examines Kayak Restrictions 

Thanks for the support Jake.  Seems they came to their senses regarding lumping us in with jet skis and power boats. 

Thanks also for representing the club and it's interests.  Any tournament publicity you can generate is more than welcome.  Our tournament page shoudl be up shortly.  Will post when it is.  Hope to see you at the tournament.

 

wayne

 
New Post 8/21/2008 11:47 AM
User is offline forrest
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Re: Hampton Examines Kayak Restrictions 

Thanks!!!! Forrest

 
New Post 8/21/2008 1:25 PM
User is offline orlowskr
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Re: Hampton Examines Kayak Restrictions 

Great job, Jake!

Bob O.

 
New Post 8/21/2008 8:45 PM
User is offline host
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Re: Hampton Examines Kayak Restrictions 

Thanks, everyone for the support.  I have enjoyed interacting with you all and everyone so far has been a class act.  I met some very nice people and made some good connections at the council meeting.  The city is putting 6.5 million dollars into the development of Buckroe in the next fiscal year and they are also building a new multi million dollar fishing pier there.  WIth the city already promoting kayaking (rentals), fishing (the pier), and the planning commision focusing on Green Initiatives for federal $$$ the opportunity is there for us to capitalize.  The unanimous decision to drop the restrictions on kayaking from the meetings agenda tells me that they will listen to any suggestions we have.  In the near future the city of Hampton will be in control of Ft Monroe, this is in my opinion the best access to the HRBT in hampton and our prescence at city/planning meetings and civic associations may pay off in the future.  Remember the sqeaky wheel always gets the oil.   I hope that we can bring to Hampton the same thing that has been done at Crab Creek.  

 
New Post 8/22/2008 2:11 PM
User is offline baydaze
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Re: Hampton Examines Kayak Restrictions 

More launch sites are always good for the paddling community in general...and hopefully get us out to our spots quicker. 

If you hear of any meetings that it would be helpful for us to send a rep to speak on our behalf, just contact someone on the board and we'll figure it out. 

Thanks again for what you've done so far.

 
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