IF YOU FISH BY THE ISLANDS AND DRIFT THROUGH YOU WILL FIND THEM, I BEEN USING 5" WHITE ZOOMS AND 1/2 OZ. LEAD HEADS. YOU GO THROUGH ALOT OF SHORTS, BUT YOU WILL PICK UP SOME NICE KEEPERS. THE SMALLEST I BEEN KEEPING IS 20", CANNOT SAY EXACT LOCATION CUZ EVERYONE GOES BY IT BUT I BEEN THE ONLY FISHING THERE FOR THEM I SEEN PEOPLE CATCH BAIT AND LEAVE, AND LOOK AT ME LIKE I'M CRAZY, BUT THE LOOKS ON THERE FACE WHEN I PULL IN, PRICELESS.....